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Best Daily "Automatic"???

Postby Nostalgic » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:27 am

Hey Guys howsit?

My wife drives a 2013 Honda Ballade GM2 Elegance. I'm looking to upgrade to an "auto" for daily driving. We are accustomed to only driving Hondas in our household... Call us brand blind lol!!!

I'm particularly interested in a GK5 Jazz, however it only comes in CVT as their version of "auto". From research, it would appear that it's not the most reliable and hectic on maintenance.

Should I really be that concerned? Are there other models for me to consider even if it wasn't Honda? Has to be fuel efficient, offer comfort and easy on maintenance.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Best Daily

Postby DJ7 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:01 am

Nostalgic wrote:Hey Guys howsit?

My wife drives a 2013 Honda Ballade GM2 Elegance. I'm looking to upgrade to an "auto" for daily driving. We are accustomed to only driving Hondas in our household... Call us brand blind lol!!!

I'm particularly interested in a GK5 Jazz, however it only comes in CVT as their version of "auto". From research, it would appear that it's not the most reliable and hectic on maintenance.

Should I really be that concerned? Are there other models for me to consider even if it wasn't Honda? Has to be fuel efficient, offer comfort and easy on maintenance.

Thanks in advance

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I have now been dailying my G5 for almost 5 years and am actually going to continue to do so. I have not had any big issues with it (touch wood). All I have done is services (including DSG service), replaced tyres and a battery.

But if I were to look for a different car as a daily, it would probably be a hyundai in a diesel and auto. Their cars are very well specced and decently reliable as well. Would even consider a Kia.
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Re: Best Daily "Automatic"???

Postby Nostalgic » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:27 pm

Thanks a million Boet. My notifications weren't coming through so I didn't know there was a reply.

G5s are very well priced. I'll look into the Kia and Hyundai as well.

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but when I hear DSG then my mag kramp

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Re: Best Daily

Postby DJ7 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:56 am

Nostalgic wrote:Thanks a million Boet. My notifications weren't coming through so I didn't know there was a reply.

G5s are very well priced. I'll look into the Kia and Hyundai as well.

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but when I hear DSG then my mag kramp

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At the time, it wasn't what I was looking for. I wanted a Polo TDI Sportline, but then the G5 popped up, also diesel, but 2.0 TDI and DSG, was better specced and hard to turn down, especially for what I paid for it and came with full history of alles.

It is tough for the other manufacturers to match what a Kia and Hyundai offer as standard. I actually don't think their cars look bad either. Nah, depends, there are problematic boxes and there are less problematic boxes. Mine has been fine for a while now and I just need to make sure to do the DSG service regularly. Which is just filter and specific oil.
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Re: Best Daily "Automatic"???

Postby Nostalgic » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:04 pm

Your advice is noted Boet, much appreciated!!!

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Re: Best Daily

Postby DJ7 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:23 am

Nostalgic wrote:Your advice is noted Boet, much appreciated!!!

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Re: Best Daily

Postby Techniq » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:23 pm

We bought my wife a GD3 CVT Jazz almost 2 years ago, and although it's an older model as compared to the GK5 there hasn't been any issues with the CVT. We took the car to HSR for service, and I had Junaid drain and top up the CVT fluid. Now according to Honda they recommend you only use their CVT fluid, but it was way too pricey. I managed to find a cheaper alternative at Midas which complies with Honda specifications and the transmission felt smoother after the fluid change (mind you that the previous fluid was more than likely needing a change which could explain the smoothness we now get in the transmission). Other than the reports I've read where people say their Jazz's have had CVT issues, I would assume it is as a result of using ATF rather than CVT-F in the transmissions as they have different properties and lubricate the internals differently. The two also have different heating properties under load which, which is why ATF is not recommended in CVT boxes (or something to that effect).

Either way, buy the Jazz. You won't be sorry :thumbup:

PS. I recommended a Jazz to one of the manager's here at work, she wasn't swayed but I persuaded her to go test drive one at Honda. She decided to do that and immediately fell in love with the car, and placed an order. She's got hers for 3 years now and still talks to me abut her trips in the car (and it's the Jazz Sport CVT, and she's a 63 year old :-) )
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Re: Best Daily

Postby turbodub » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:39 am

with the dsg you will have an expensive service every 60 000 km to make sure it lasts. but they are vastly superior to any auto except the most modern ones which come on new expensive cars
i am not a fan of cvt personally, in general they horrible to drive compared to an auto or a dsg.
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